Well I was on a mission to shoot Wendameen at this angle today for an artist... I think I did a pretty good job on that one, then I bombed around and got some other great shots, and really got a nice tangle on the prop and had to get out not only a knife but even pliers to get this all off as it was really jammed up in the crevase between the prop and lower unit, not a pretty site, it took me about 15 minutes, and I was way out there at point #21!